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Post by haffyfan on Dec 30, 2010 14:40:10 GMT 1
Following on from Jinny liking My Friend Flicka and wanting but not affording Thunderhead in Horse of fire I was wondering what other real (or fictional) pony books are referenced to in other pony books.
I know Moorland mousie is referenced somewhere (and possibly another one or two) but can't remember where off hand.
Jill mentions Tschiffely Ride In Trek, i think, and Lady Di and her Arab, which i assume is a fictional text.
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Post by garej on Dec 30, 2010 14:57:34 GMT 1
In one of the Candy books (CPT), a book called Good Riding is mentioned, which conveniently is written by CPT. However Good Riding is an non fictional work.
You are right about Moorland Mousie, I think it is mentioned in an early PT book. JPT springs to mind.
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Post by rallycairn on Dec 30, 2010 15:18:38 GMT 1
Ruth in Fly-by-Night definitely studies her pony care and riding manual, but I don't know if it is mentioned by title.
garej, I think it's cute of CPT to mention her own riding manual! Good on her!
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Post by Claire on Dec 30, 2010 16:09:02 GMT 1
Great idea for a thread haffy! In Six Ponies Noel is looking for a couple of books in the bookshop when she has the fateful meeting with Richard - they are From Shetland to Show Hack and The Lane to Success. But never knew if they were real or not. Never quite nerdish enough to go and check (tho I may now lol) and in the Hounds series the kids are reading From Ratcatcher to Scarlet which I am not sure is real either! I am sure Tamzin in the Romney Marsh books (and possibly Lindsey too?) mentions a number of pony books but as I'm not home can't check. I'm sure kunuma or exmoorfan will know!
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Post by susanb on Dec 30, 2010 16:32:01 GMT 1
What a fun idea for a thread!
Ratcatcher to Scarlet is definitely real...it's by Cecil Aldin. There is also a sequel, called Scarlet to MFH
I know I've read a lot of books where the children are reading horse books, but the one that sticks in my mind is Green Trail by Shirley Faulkner-Horne....Ian mentions The Maltese Cat by Rudyard Kipling.....it's what pushed me over the edge to hunt down a copy, which I've never regretted!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2010 19:18:11 GMT 1
Me too, though I can't remember which ones
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Post by sarah on Jan 2, 2011 22:01:27 GMT 1
I've just read Liz Jones - THe Exmoor Files (yawn yawn) and she talks about how she loved reading pony books as a child - she lists a load but slips up with "I had 3 ponies". Also spells surcingle as circingle and there were a few other things that were wrong. Also spotted at least one sentence that didn't make sentence - over use of brackets and commas and totally lost the meaning.
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Post by Claire on Jan 3, 2011 11:07:43 GMT 1
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Post by sarah on Jan 3, 2011 21:27:13 GMT 1
Oops! My mum got me the book for Christmas because she saw the horse on it! I found it not the best read to say the least (and judging by some of the reviews on amazon I wouldn't be alone in that opinion).
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Post by foxglove on Jan 4, 2011 14:26:36 GMT 1
I loved the dig Ruby Ferguson had in Jill's Gymkhana by making awful Cecilia into school stories, with Jill refusing to read the one she got for Christmas.
Have to confess to enjoying Malory Towers et al myself, though!
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Post by Claire on Jan 4, 2011 22:28:53 GMT 1
Yes and the books that Jill's mother wrote with the awful titles were I am sure a sly dig at some of the more saccharine Enid Blyton books
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Post by foxglove on Jan 5, 2011 10:42:12 GMT 1
Oh yes, Angeline The Fairy Child ha ha!
In The Hidden Horse one of the girls gets a pony book for Christmas, but it's not specified.
I find that a lot of crime fiction makes dismissive references to detective novels.
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Post by vera on Jan 7, 2011 1:58:45 GMT 1
I'm actually not sure where this book fits. I picked up a new one by Amy Brown called "Jay and the Stray", published last year. The book is set in New Zealand, but you can only tell by the mention of Auckland. In the first couple of pages she mentions her pony books which she has brought along to her grandfather's; they are International Velvet, National velvet, Fly by Night, POny Club Team, Black Stallion and Jill's Gymkhana. It's cliches, moving from a big city to the country, saving a pony from slaughter, winning at the first show after riding for six months, a knowledgable person to help with her ignorance, the snooty people being taken down a peg.... The cover is very nice, the pony is black and the girl eleven-ish like in the story. It is a very nice read with some interesting plot and character developments and I will look out for its sequel. But as I said I am not sure exactly where this popst should go! Cheers, Vera
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Post by Claire on Jan 7, 2011 11:08:21 GMT 1
Sounds an interesting new pony story vera, thanks for telling us about it.
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Post by rallycairn on Jan 7, 2011 14:36:48 GMT 1
Vera, that does sound like a promising book. Maybe it's the author's first foray into pony books, and they will only get better, or at least less-cliched, as time goes on!
I have a funny one, though the reference is not to a specific title. SPOILER WARNING for Kestrels #6, Pony Puzzle: When Arabian mare Ferina's "rightful owner" appears, she says to our protagonists Sally and Thalia, "I do understand and I've read enough pony books in my youth to know this is where I give her to you. But it is not like that. I would like to keep her." -- That part really made me chuckle as really the girls had done a nice turn for Ferina but hardly enough to expect ownership and the "rightful owner" was no ogre anyway. A cute nod to the cliche on Leitch's part, I thought.
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Post by garej on Jan 7, 2011 22:11:19 GMT 1
I am not sure whether this is purely the work of TV or it did happen in the books, without checking, but William was forced to read hunting books by his father. So if it did appear in Flambards (the actual book) then that would count.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 21:08:41 GMT 1
In Six Ponies by JPT Noel talks about reading her books in the bath and Susan, who was rather shocked at this, said she can never remember any of the names of her books except Black Beauty
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Post by Claire on Jan 12, 2011 22:32:17 GMT 1
I always read in the bath too, but only the tatty pbs!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2011 7:46:08 GMT 1
Can you imagine dropping your first edition signed copy of Blue Rosette in to the soap suds? As I'm highly unlikely to ever get hold of a copy of this book I don't have to worry! ;D
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Post by garej on Jan 14, 2011 19:08:25 GMT 1
Can you imagine dropping your first edition signed copy of Blue Rosette in to the soap suds? As I'm highly unlikely to ever get hold of a copy of this book I don't have to worry! ;D Well I dont have to worry but for a different reason....I dont own a bath! (I also dont own Blue Rosette either!)
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Post by jinglerebel on Feb 8, 2011 2:11:16 GMT 1
In Jill's Riding Club Ann has a lot of pony books and mentions one about a riding club where the kids have a park to ride in and an "uncle who was a famous equitation expert", which Ann found unrealistic, though a good story, ha ha. ;D This must be a dig at The Radney Riding Club (although it is the uncle that puts them on to a famous equitation expert)! JRC was published in 1956, TRRC in 1951, so the timeline fits. I wonder if Ruby Ferguson and the PTS' all knew each other.
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Post by Claire on Feb 8, 2011 19:32:33 GMT 1
it would be quite fun to work out what book it was, if a real one!
Any other suggestions for it folks?
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Post by gillian on Feb 15, 2011 19:44:25 GMT 1
I always thought that it was a reference to one of J P-T's Pony Club books - possibly Pony Club Team which was published 1950. In that one, they are being taught by Henry's uncle, and have his estate at their disposal.
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Post by kunuma on Feb 15, 2011 22:31:41 GMT 1
There's a bit in I Had Two Ponies which I can't remember very well and can't find my copy, but she looks through some pony books and throws them about, and gets told off by the books owner??? Then she writes one to raise money?
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Post by Claire on Feb 15, 2011 23:01:03 GMT 1
I'll have to have a look at my copy kunuma
Going back to the rich uncle book I have a feeling that the kids in We Started a Riding Club had a rich uncle who was a MFH tho it may have been a grandfather...
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Post by gillian on Feb 16, 2011 15:19:28 GMT 1
It was a grandfather. The same kind of thing as the book that annoyed Ann, but the J P-T books fit better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2011 8:41:02 GMT 1
I'm reading Sabre a horse from the Sea by kathleen Herald. The heroine Liza learns to ride by reading a book called The Household Horse by Pimtroddle. Don't know if that's a real book or not!
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Post by Claire on Feb 22, 2011 12:49:47 GMT 1
Teehee love the name - surely that can't be real!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2011 18:55:42 GMT 1
In a Stable for Jill a character called Mike wins a book called Two Boys and a Pony in Wild Wales.
I've just googled it but it doesn't appear to be real book.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 18:10:49 GMT 1
I've just read Head High, Hands Low by Captain C. H. Dent. GORGEOUS colour plates by Lionel Edwards. David, one of the children in the story, wins a copy of The Maltese Cat by Rudyard Kipling at a show. Lucky devil, I wouldn't mind winning a copy of that book!
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