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Post by kunuma on Jan 17, 2010 23:44:21 GMT 1
OK this is driving me nuts! Is a FLOAT a horse lorry or a trailer?? And why on earth is it called a float - I'm darn sure it ain't a hovercraft!! ;D And why are trailer hitches over the water sort of in the middle of the back of the truck?? Does that make it easier or harder to tow than when they are attached to the back, it looks as though it makes it more stable?
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Post by Claire on Jan 18, 2010 17:52:28 GMT 1
Not sure what it means in America but I am pretty sure in Australia its a trailer. When I hear the word I always think of a lorry tho, as in milk float, float in carnivals, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 19:18:00 GMT 1
I think a float is a lorry as like claire says they have lorries/floats in carnivals.
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Post by haffyfan on Jan 18, 2010 21:38:11 GMT 1
I think a flaot is a lorry...whether it has a roof or not is anyones guess as they did (still do?) have those lorries with 3/4 sides....sound scarey!
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Post by kunuma on Jan 18, 2010 22:02:51 GMT 1
2 votes for a lorry and one for a trailer so far. i always thought that they called the lorries with carnival scenes on floats because they hid the wheel with the decorations so it looked as though the scene was floating! I've been watching the SAddle Club , now on Horse and Country TV non stop - and because it seems to use American storylines with American actresses, but is filmed in Australia, it really does come across as a funny mix, and some of the background scenes are very odd, but I don't know which country is 'responsible' for them. Pine Hollow has a massive ranch type sign at the end of it's long drive, and then the car park at the end is called a Float Park - sorry but it just makes me feel someone must have left the stable tap on!! ;D The whole hitching thing is intriguing as they seem to have a completely different way of hitching trailers in the STates, and they don't have ramps, even poorly rescue horses have to sort of jump up into the trailer! But they pull enormous trailers, much bigger than we have here, and I can't work out if it is because they have more powerful cars, flatter roads, or it is because of this different trailer hitch system.
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Post by cally on Jan 21, 2010 22:01:10 GMT 1
A horse float here is a tall covered trailer for horses that hitches to the back of a vehicle. They have a kind of cylindrical front, often with a window, and the rear door is also a ramp that drops to the ground and is open at the top above the horses' tail. They can be single or double.
I'm not a brilliant...describer (?!?)... so try googling Australian horse floats!
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Post by kunuma on Jan 21, 2010 22:25:27 GMT 1
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Post by Claire on Jan 21, 2010 22:50:24 GMT 1
Heck kunuma you should get one of them - it would solve all your housing problems ;D ;D ;D
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Post by cally on Jan 22, 2010 2:26:50 GMT 1
Actually, I have a translation question- what's the difference between a stable, a stall and a loose box?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 8:17:13 GMT 1
I've always thought that a stall is where you tie up a horse between partitions and a loose box is bigger than a stable.
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Post by kunuma on Jan 22, 2010 10:55:01 GMT 1
That's an interesting one, my take on it would be that a stall has only three sides, and so the horse is always tied in it, like the stabling they have in places like mews where police horses etc live. A loosebox has four sides and the horse is loose - but it doesn't have to have a roof, cos it can be in a barn or a stable. We often call a loosebox a stable, well, OK I often do, but in theory you could have a stable which had both looseboxes and stalls in it. Locally here that is often called a linny!! (linhay)
I've noticed recently a lot of livery stables advertising American Barns, this seems to be the current name for a lot of looseboxes made by partitioning up a big building. ( Could also be called 'squishasmanyrentpayersinaspossible' barns!)
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Post by Claire on Jan 22, 2010 14:26:16 GMT 1
I would agree with kunuma's definition of stall and loose box (we usually just call them boxes) I would say 'stable' is a fairly generic term which covers just about everything, but usually its in the plural to mean a collection of stalls or boxes. Its mainly non-horsy people who call a single box a stable up here, so maybe it even vaires from region to region!
We don't seem to have many stalls any more, but when I first learned to ride it was much more common. It wasnt until I eventually went to a 'posh' riding school that I saw looseboxes! ;D
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Post by susanb on Jan 22, 2010 17:03:11 GMT 1
I've never heard the term "float" used to describe horse transport of any kind....generally a float is something you see in a parade: www.tournamentofroses.com/photogallery/2009trophies/slideshow.htm(click award names/links at left to see floats) re stalls and stables....some definitions really, stalls are found in a stable, and a loose box is a large stall where the horse/pony is loose, a straight stall is where the pony is tied up.
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Post by Claire on Jan 22, 2010 20:44:58 GMT 1
Yes susan thats exactly what we would call floats too so it looks like only the aussies call the horse trailers floats.
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Post by kunuma on Jan 22, 2010 21:39:32 GMT 1
I had a couple of new pony books last year that I couldn't work out where they were supposed to be based, think you knew them Claire, the ones with the Pony Club base on an island or something weird - well now I know they were written by an Australian or New Zealand writer - 'cos they were on about floats the whole time! It's quite funny, there are lots of sites out there with headings like this Floating Your Horse - Tips When Floating Horsesand no mention of using a life jacket either tut tut! ;D
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Post by Claire on Jan 22, 2010 22:38:37 GMT 1
lol kunuma that is funny. ;D
The term 'pig-root' is that Australian also cos I have only ever seen it in Aussie pony books?
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Post by garej on Jan 23, 2010 20:14:19 GMT 1
Just on the subject of foreign books, I recently re-read Mystic and the Midnight Ride and it mentions putting a cover on the horse. Now I know that they call New Zealand rugs covers in New Zealand, but if you didn't, it would be confusing.
A New Zealand rug is an rug used in bad weather made out of a canvas type or waxed cotton material btw. If it is made out of anything else, then it is a turn out rug. If you asked most people then they would think that putting a horse under cover means to put it in a building (either a stable/stall/loosebox/covered yard/indoor arena), rather than being outside, but wearing an NZ rug.
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Post by cally on Jan 24, 2010 9:10:53 GMT 1
Kunuma, that photo you put up is a vehicle known as a gooseneck over here.
Thanks for all of the stable/stall/box etc. info. When I stayed on an old station (farm) we put the horses in stalls during the day in summer. They were tied in with a rope around their neck where the dangly bit went through the wooden manger and had a wooden weight at the bottom. Needless to say, I wouldn't use one now!
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Post by kunuma on Jan 24, 2010 21:27:39 GMT 1
OMG I can remember that was how we tied the ponies in their stalls at the first, and ONLY Pony Club Camp I ever went to, they had halters as opposed to headcollars, (had headcollars been invented??)and the rope went through a ring and into a wooden ball. Impossible to get off once they had tugged it tight, and my hairy pony was disgusted by the whole set up, and broke out every couple of hours! Both he and I hated every minute of that camp! cally does gooseneck refer to the way the hitch on the trailer goes into the back of the pick up?? Is that a special way of doing it, or only with certain types of trailer, or certain types of pick up. WE don't have anything like that over here!
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Post by cally on Jan 25, 2010 0:32:08 GMT 1
The former, Kunuma, re the gooseneck and the way it hitches to the ute...which is our term for a 'utility vehicle', which I think you call...I dunno- a car with a cabin and a tray at the back!
And as for those round the neck doo dads, I seem to recall we called them bell ropes, and one of the horses was a houdini (he was a lippizaner) and would escape from that and the headcollar that we tied him up with. We nearly always found him in the feed room getting stuck into the lucerne chaff- he could open doors with round knobs. He'd then just freeze with a look of 'oh dear they caught me, I'll have to go through all this again as soon as they've gone'. We never ever got to actually SEE him do it, the clever sod.
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Post by cally on Jan 25, 2010 0:35:55 GMT 1
Oh, and Claire, pig root is another one of our colourful sayings. It refers to a half ar*ed buck. I think you might call them fly bucks or summat. It's a twisty sort of sideways buck, not all that strong but more unexpected and thus just as unseating at times.
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