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Post by kunuma on Nov 15, 2010 19:57:34 GMT 1
Sometimes I don't think the human race can sink any lower in my estimation. This is a market report. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Report The most unspeakable sight of all was tiny little coloured ponies, about the size of large dogs. Over thirty of these little souls were crushed together in a couple of pens, and were dying on their feet. Most had eye infections, a couple were very lame, and all had given up. It looked as if they hadn’t been off the lorry for a long time. Once again, no respect was given to these animals as they were handled, to the dealer they were simply a few euros on legs. From type and size and markings, we believe that these were Dartmoor hill ponies. The last UK sale from Dartmoor was on 14th of October, with ponies selling for around £2.50 each. The dealer at Maurs was asking for as much as 250€ each for them. That would very much make it a worthwhile trip for him. We were surprised to see the Italian buyers in negotiation with the dealer. There is little or no meat value in these ponies, especially as they appeared to be starving, and are simply skin and bone on legs. We suspect their coat markings would hold value, with Italy being famous for skin and leather production. These exhausted ponies face yet more misery and suffering before their final destination – changing the laws on TOTAL distance for live transport down to eight hours would stop this. I can't add the pictures, but her are here, these look like the late Dartmoors rescued successfully earlier this year www.equinerescuefrance.org/2010/11/and-the-ugly-2/
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Post by Claire on Nov 15, 2010 20:53:44 GMT 1
Thats terrible kunuma. I thought we were supposed to have laws to protect animals from this sort of thing, I mean the neglect and starvation bit. Does the RSPCA not bother? If only we had somewhere to keep them we could buy them and give them a decent home. But even so it would be a drop in the ocean with them keep being bred. With a few exceptions (everyone on here of course) I too do not think highly of the human race.
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Post by garej on Nov 19, 2010 21:31:30 GMT 1
Thats terrible kunuma. I thought we were supposed to have laws to protect animals from this sort of thing, I mean the neglect and starvation bit. Does the RSPCA not bother? The RSPCA are useless in many respects. Unfortunately the Cats Protection gets tons of calls asking for either advice/help and in some cases, it comes under the jurisdiction of the RSPCA. When the caller usually is told that the best people to ask are the RSPCA, you can bet that 9 times out of the 10, the person will reply "well we tried the RSPCA but got no answer". A couple of years ago, my dad found a kitten wandering around in the middle of the road. Now where my parents live, there are large gaps between the houses, so there aren't many people to ask. My dad did ask around, but nobody had lost a kitten, and found that it had been dumped there. They tried phoning the RSPCA (he was concerned that it needed bottle feeding), but got nowhere. In the end, he phoned me, so what happened is that they kept it overnight, and the next day, they went to the Cats Protection, who took it. (He didnt need bottle feeding, and once the stray time was over got rehomed.) Also recently we got a kitten that someone brought in. It was dumped in someone's garden, and over 2 days became very weak, they phoned the RSPCA, and they said "oh leave it there". Anyway, this person took it to us, and we took it to the vet. It had to kept in as it was so weak, and would not feed. One of the practice vets took it home, where it did fine, but it started fitting, and the diagnosis was meningitis. On humane grounds it had to be put to sleep, but the vet said that if the RSPCA had come out, this kitten would still be alive. Also a couple of months ago, the RSPCA implemented a policy of "only neglected kitties in our shelters", which means more pressure on other charities because if you have to give up your cat for whatever reason, you cannot get them into an RSPCA shelter. That means other charities have to take in extra kitties, which means less space. Unfortunately that means more people are usually dumping their cats, or taking perfectly healthy cats to the vet to be put to sleep because nowhere will take them. Also, from a personal point of view, my two cats would be dead in the RSPCA's hands. The RSPCA put down all cats that test positive (the test used can sometimes throw false positives) for the condition FIV, which in all other respects, the cat could be healthy (or a more detailed blood test could confirm that it was a negative result) and could be rehomed. The RSPCA are the only national charity who do that: Battersea, Blue Cross, Cats Protection, Celia Hammond Trust only put down FIV positive cats on the vets recommendation. Anyone who has worked in rescue can tell you that the RSPCA have a lot to be desired, yet unfortunately there is no alternative. I have long since thought that the inspection side should be separate organisation, as unfortunately unlike the police, there is nobody to complain to, or any authority which regulates them (the police have the police complaints commission). That means they are free to make up rules which other charities do not, and to a certain extent, the individual inspector can act without any repercussions. The inspecting side of things should be independent and should only be bound by law, not because of what an individual organisation believes. In 1824 (when the RSPCA was founded) there was nobody: these days there are so many rescue charities (national and independent) that would love the RSPCA's power, but unfortunately are not allowed to. If the inspection side was independent, then more animals would only be put to sleep on medical grounds, rather than because "there's no room at the inn". That would improve animal welfare standards overall, and would hopefully also encourage more people to adopt.
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Post by kunuma on Dec 3, 2010 22:19:37 GMT 1
www.thisisdevon.co.uk/news/Shock-....il/article.htmlHow much longer is this going to be allowed to go on? I am just sickened by the attitude of the so called 'humans' bringing these lives into the world for the same fate year after year. The mares of course are in foal again now! One of the reasons given for this is that the tourists like looking at the foals!! How can we get across to people who visit the moors and coo at the horses that this is going on?? Any ideas?
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Post by Buster on Dec 4, 2010 15:09:21 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure theres already facebook groups about this, but the internet is powerful, could make a website about it all. Its such a shame, if one wants to come live in my garden I wouldn't mind
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