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Post by kunuma on Aug 11, 2010 16:40:51 GMT 1
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Post by exmoorfan on Aug 11, 2010 17:45:20 GMT 1
Thanks Kunuma.....Loved the canter by the sea especially.. It does make you wonder that if high school can be trained without any tack , then the shortcuts and force that must be used in the clips on there.. I especially don't like to watch showjumping..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2010 18:22:53 GMT 1
Thanks for posting Kunuma.
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Post by haffyfan on Aug 11, 2010 18:37:28 GMT 1
thanks Kunuma.
Couple more people may or may not have seen before. You may be aware but I am, in particular, not a fan of the old stressage and far prefer western riding/principles of in place of 'english' riding.
I think watching these two horses nicely sums up why and which is happier in it's work! It's also interesting how the 'cowboy' has no problems getting the stressage nag to 'perform' but the cowpony looses it's sparkle somewhat.
The difference in this horses going and how it chooses to go long and low when the bridle is removed unless it's an uphill more naturally collected movement is also very interesting and to me speaks volumes.
And a Stacey westfall freestyle reining vid because she's amazing!
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Post by exmoorfan on Aug 11, 2010 19:55:45 GMT 1
Thanks haffyfan.. Lovely vids.... My friend has an ex dressage horse who absolutely loved his dressage to music..And was a dote to hack. So trainers aren't all the same. To watch him gave you shivers down you spine. He certainly didn't have any pain or resistance.. Just loved showing off to the crowds.. lol I am not totally convince with the Stacey video.. OOpps Sorry. Thought the horse looked unhappy. Lots of tail swishing.. Also not sure how good all that spinning and backing is good for the joints..? Anyway.. .They are great vids. Thanks for finding them..
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Post by kunuma on Aug 11, 2010 20:47:44 GMT 1
Thanks haffy, you must be psychic! I was watching a reining class at a Western show last weekend and the thing I was most intrigued about is the low head carriage. I was trying to work out whether it was the different tack, style of riding, balance of the rider or what - was it hard to train etc - well there is my answer, it is how a horse naturally goes when you are not pulling it's teeth out!
That first vid is so interesting, (who is that brilliant western rider haffy?) I found the QH a pleasure to watch, not so the over hyped, over collected stressage horse, though I actually thought it went better with the western rider on!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2010 7:12:35 GMT 1
Thanks haffy, very interesting vids.
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Post by haffyfan on Aug 12, 2010 11:24:55 GMT 1
He's an Austrian by name of Dennis Shultz
Think the stressage rider is also Austrian possibly Peter Gmoser (according to google!)
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Post by haffyfan on Aug 12, 2010 11:28:24 GMT 1
Exmoor fan yes I see your point regarding Stacey horse in that clip and I think hock injections etc are actually pretty common place in the high up competitive levels (nothings safe these days it's seems, think the endurance riders are the worst of the bunch despite their sport realistically being the most natural...the amount of 'funny business' that goes on between checkpoints in some camps )
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Post by Buster on Aug 13, 2010 12:35:48 GMT 1
Thats such a lovely video, im seriously tempted to try Buster in a bitless bridle, but I dont want to buy one and then find out he's a little monster in it. But someone's mentioned to me it works very well on their horse who is also hot headed. Dont really like barefoot that much cos we go on the roads a lot and also you cant put studs in it really want to gallop down a beach though!!
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Post by haffyfan on Aug 14, 2010 19:38:38 GMT 1
I would def try bitless if you can borrow one, most horses seem to go well instantly in my experience.
Regarding the barefoot and slipping you will probably find that barefoot horses slip far less as they have natural grip as noone is messing around with it if you see what I mean. Hoof boots also have built in traction.
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Post by Claire on Aug 14, 2010 20:38:15 GMT 1
Thanks for posting these folks. Sadly I cant play u tube vids with this crappy computer as its too ancient and slow Will have to wait til I get the laptop back.
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Post by Buster on Aug 15, 2010 1:00:31 GMT 1
It will be worth the wait, the video is awesome Will defo try it if I can find someone who uses a Bitless bridle! Ah I see it makes sense not to mess with the horses feet, i'll have to talk to my farrier about it
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Post by kunuma on Aug 15, 2010 22:45:55 GMT 1
Very poor translation and commentary - really hard to understand - but the one part that comes across is that horses should walk on their frog and heels, and not their toes, shoes make them walk on their toes. Having just had a seriously lame horse for three months as the result of an overzealous trim, horses' feet are admittedly somewhat of a 'fetish' of mine at the mo!
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